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Others' Sins No Justification of Ours

Heber C. Kimball · 1865 October General Conference · 1865-10-06

Fidelity

◑Contemporaneous report

Delivered October 6, 1865. Published in Journal of Discourses, Volume 11, pp. 143-147 (confirmed against indexes/jod-page-index.json during heavyweight review). Text below is taken from the Historical General Conferences transcript. Pitman shorthand report by George D. Watt; speaker did not review this text before publication. Full text reproduced; not abridged.

Witnesses

Pitman shorthand by G. D. Watt; speaker did not review. BYU ContentDM's item-detail page currently fails to render in modern browsers (loads, then a client-side script redirects to the generic lib.byu.edu collections page; reproduced 2026-06-30, site-wide BYU bug, not link-format specific). Re-promote to preferred/source_url once BYU fixes this.

Page-anchored scan witness for Journal of Discourses volume 11, page 143. Currently the only reliably clickable link for this talk; BYU ContentDM is the institutionally preferred citation but its item pages are currently broken client-side (see the BYU witness note).

Digital transcript used to source the text below.

Carruth CR 100 912 inventory item cr-100-912-0476. Scholarly re-transcription of George D. Watt's original Pitman shorthand report, catalogued at the Church History Library. Papers of George D. Watt MS 4534 box 4 disk 3 1865b images 5-11. Sermon in Journal of Discourses JD 11:143 [redacted legacy mirror] not in CR 100 317. Transcribed from George D. Watt's shorthand record by LaJean Purcell Carruth 1 August 2013. Recorded as a separate witness per docs/ingestion.md's Carruth policy; the printed Journal of Discourses 11:143 text stays preferred until this transcription is reviewed against it.

Carruth CR 100 912 inventory item cr-100-912-0477. Scholarly re-transcription of George D. Watt's original Pitman shorthand report, catalogued at the Church History Library. Papers of George D. Watt MS 4534 box 4 disk 3 1865b images 5-11. Sermon in Journal of Discourses JD 11:143 [redacted legacy mirror] not in CR 100 317. Transcribed by Transcribed from George D. Watt's shorthand record by LaJean Purcell Carruth 1 August 2013. Recorded as a separate witness per docs/ingestion.md's Carruth policy; the printed Journal of Discourses 11:143 text stays preferred until this transcription is reviewed against it.

Collation history

Proofread against the source text.

Proofread against the official/CHL/JSP source plus scan/OCR witness; body confirmed word-for-word complete, no changes needed.

Collated word-by-word against the original scan.

Heavyweight pass: previous source_url was a bare BYU collection landing page with no proven JD volume/page citation; located the precise citation (JD 11:143-147) via indexes/jod-page-index.json and upgraded source_url/witnesses to the page-anchored BYU pointer (id/4616) and IA scan (page/n158). Body collated word-for-word against historicalgeneralconferences.weebly.com raw HTML (fetched directly, not summarized): complete verbatim match, no OCR errors, clean boundaries.

Corrections

This is a living critical edition. If you find a transcription, metadata, or sourcing error in this talk, report it to the editors →Reports are collated against the page scan and land as corrections in the vault.